Lay Report “Indirect Approach to Instant Date to Number Close to Date to Take her Home”

Spring Game...

I have been getting more demand for Lay Report videos. It seems as if the followers want me to post them more regularly. I just want you guys to know that I am  not only about Lay Reports. Also, It is really tough to record while gaming. Especially due to the fact that I do not game much ( I have scores of local PUA’s in NY who know me and will testify to this ). I would say that I can get decent footage of perhaps 1 out of 5 girls I take home.

It depends on the mood of the girl, the logistics, etc. Some girls are a lot more paranoid. Especially due to the fact that it is their first time with me and I still have to navigate through different forms of resistance. To then focus on getting good shots on top of that is quite difficult. Anyways, here is one for the spring.

ALTERNATIVE VIDEO LINK HERE

Lay Report

The Aura of a Lovely Woman...

I was coaching a 1 on 1 client a few days ago. He chose to do the ultimate training program where I coach him once a week and progressively guide his game. We were focusing on how to do indirect game in grocery stores. We were in Whole Foods that day. Since he already had some decent results with girls that he did not want, we finally decided to raise the caliber of women that he was approaching. He wanted to get the Educated Upper Class hot yet sophisticated white women and that is exactly what we were working on for that evening in the whole foods. I was a bit sick that day and was looking forward to relaxing at hime after the hard days work from both of us.

Anyways, as we were wrapping up, we saw an attractive woman around 5″11 maybe 6″ tall. She had a very confident demeanor and looked like she knows what she is about. From my experiences, these are probably the most difficult type of women to pickup from random stranger approaching. This is mainly due to their options and their wit. I could tell based on the way she was dressed and also the strides in her walk. She is a relatively wealthy woman who is in the medical field, I think she studied Cardiology and is in her early to mid 20′s. She’s into a very healthy lifestyle of exercising and self improvement. She also has honors from her college. She has travelled all over the world and is fluent in 3 languages. She was also coming out of a recent relationship with a very wealthy and notorios man who I will not disclose.

At the park...

As she was walking towards our aisle, I signalled to him. I could feel the fear from his eyes, despite how well he was doing with the less attractive women that he practiced on. Luckily, he had customized material that I created for him. He pretended that we were speaking and then he turned to her and asked an indirect question to her. She then answered. She was polite with him but looked like she wanted to leave. As he spoke, I made sure that I agreed with what he was saying. I also appeared busy and pretending to be looking at the yogurt section. Within less than a minute, she started to ignore him. I saw the socially awkward gaze that he gave me. I’ve been there before, and I always hated it when girls just go silent while trying to strike up genuine conversation. She actually totally ignored him…or should I say us, since we both took part in the opening.

I thought about whether I should give it a shot. Basically, she was in that section anyways looking for yogurt anyways. So after the one minute silence, my client walked away. I then re-opened her by making a statement” this yogurt is AMAZING” then she looked at me, however, I did not look at her. I sensed that for this girl I had to play it very cool and show NO romantic interest. She was already not in that mood. She did not respond to that statement but I just continued talking about it “It’s the healthiest yogurt in this whole store, and yet it taste the best.. that virtually NEVER happens…” She finally grabbed the bait and responded by saying “let me see…” So then I showed her the contents. ( truth is that I was just talking crap, I do not even care for yogurt ). SO we started speaking about yogurt, then I transitioned from Indirect ( the yogurt topic) to Neutral (non sexual rapport). I made sure that the momentum was high before transitioning. I knew that I was walking on a VERY THIN ROPE and that ONE mistake will ruin everything. As I reached to the Neutral phase of the social interaction, I focused on really creating a ‘friendly’ but not ‘nice’ interaction. I tried to make it feel as if we are hitting it off as friends. Just to cast a decent social base before trying to hit on her in any shape or form or she would have rejected me off the bat. ALso, she had two bags in her hand so the logistics seemed a bit out of my favor.

Restaurant

Within about 3 minutes of neutral and social conversation. I then used a tactic to get her to follow me down to another section of the store. I wanted to create social momentum. As she followed me I felt the momentum growing. I finally established the first check point in my Domino Effect. However, I had to figure out a way to deal with the fact that she had to continue shopping. I asked her if she was finished shopping to have an idea of what to do next. She said “I think so”. So then I said, “well I have to go now, let’s just check out together as we talk because I gotta tell you about what happened to me yesterday…” This was a great reason to get her to come with me to the cashier without “lingering” around her. We went to the cashier. This process took about 5 minutes since there was lot of people. Within the 15 minute mark, we were finally outside. Up to this point the conversation was very social which was perfect since I have now created a great social base to then begin PROGRESSIVE FLIRTING. It took literally one minute to transition to flirting and hand holding. SHe had two bags in her hand, so I just took one of her bags in one hand, and then held her hand and continued walking with her down the street. She was blushing heavily. I started to smell the weakness as I flirted with her. Especially when I asked “so do you live around here?” and then she said “yes I live close by, I can show you if you want”. Wait, let me rewind. While we were walking holding hands, I mentioned to her that we should grab a drink  now. So she wanted to take home her bags first which led to her saying I can follow her home while she packs her bags and then she will rejoin me. That’s exactly what we did. I told her to close her eyes, she closed them while smiling, and then I slowly wnet in for the make out. After the make out she looked very bashful.

At this point I knew that I was in. Meaning that she was romantically interested and also trusted me enough to follow her home. If I went direct and used “flashy” game, she would not have trusted me enough yet. SHe then said “I’m sorry, but I have to do something, do you want to meet me infront my apartment in and hour?” So of course i said “umm.. let me see…. sure, my friend Lisa is actually near by, so I’ll hang with her in the meantime”. ( I had to try and preserve my value.. even though this may be marginal, it still adds up in the collective experience of the pick up.  So I basically took a walk while she went up.)

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So I then got a text an hr later where she said “I’m soo sorry, I can not come out tonight. Tomorrow? Im really sorry:(. “

I responded later saying ” Yea, its cool, Lisa wanted to meet you, it’s great over here! sorry you couldn’t come out. WHat time tomorrow can you hang out?”

This text did a number of things, Firstly it shows a positive vibe, secondly it shows that I’m bound to have fun with or without her, and thirdly, I get straight to the point by trying to set the date the next day.

She then responds “Meet me at “x” place at “x” time tomorrow. I look forward to seeing you, you were very charming tonight :)

I didn’t bother try to guess why she couldn’t come out. That would be simply pure mental masturbation.

She met me the next day. As shown on the video. The date plan was simple. I would take her to a number a places all going towards my apartment. The weather was great that day for spring season. I basically just relaxed with her. All the work was done on day1. All I had to do was relax. She even initiated handholding while we were walking. I knew I was in. We went walking, eating, drinking (coffee) etc. It was like 2 hrs of having fun. I honestly really enjoyed her and she was a very interesting woman. She was both very hot and educated. I haven’t had such great conversation in a long time with a girl on a date.

I basically told her that I will take her to my apartment and try to seduce her. She just laughed and said “your so bad”.

I took her home to my room. She gave little resistance for sex. However, she told me to put away my phone and to take off all the lights. It seemed like she sensed that I have a blog dedicated to this :) . I complied since she was very hot naked. I couldn’t help but to think to myself how fortunate I was to create such a powerful technique (The Domino Effect). It get’s me women way out of my league by targeting subconscious attraction. In her right mind she would have never slept with a random guy like me of significantly lower socio-economic status and much less attractive with nothing to offer. She even said “no offense, but I never though I would slept with a black guy before”. She is generally not into them. This is not the first time I heard this. IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW ME MORE EASILY, PLEASE CLICK ON THE “FOLLOW” BUTTON ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THIS PAGE. 

Messing Around...

PodCast Episode 5: “The White Cutie with a “Black Booty”

In this PodCast I am with John Atlas, from the last episode, where I broke down an epic story of how I met one of my past girlfriend from game. It was a struggle from meet to end. However, I used the basic principles of old school game at that time to leverage my situation against all odds. I ended up being in a relationship with her for a year and a half. She even ended up getting a tattoe with my name on it. (I did not tell her to).

Me and My old RoomMate

If there is one thing I do not really talk about is my ability to keep girls around through the extremes of them sharing me with other women and still wanting to stay exclusive for me. This makes it easy for me to be a dating coach and live the way I want to live with about being rich. We speak a bit on this in this PodCast with John Atlas.

A Justin Wayne GirlFriend (Old School)

With hard work and logic understanding, we can achieve many things. I almost feel like retiring, but I want to leave a lasting impact on the dating literature. I know I will because of the results that have been replicated for me and some of my prestigious clients that I would love to brag about, however, I keep their identity unknown due to their wishes since they have professional lives that they would rather keep separate. More on my MULTIPLE RELATIONSHIP MANAGEMENT HERE.

Justin Wayne – Direct Vs Indirect (Day Game Infield Analysis)

I recently was reading the notorious blog of Heartiste and bumped into the same debate that’s been going on for ages… ‘Direct VS Indirect’ Approaching.

Here were some of my intial thoughts…

Plausible Deniability Direct game is where its at. Actually, there is a huge difference between direct opening and direct game.

Most women do not want to look that easy-to-get. So that will make them say NO to a guy that they would probably have sex with if the social situation seemed more “serendipity-like”. I find this especially true for the Anglo – Speaking women who were brought up under this post-feministic culture.

As long as you are consistently moving forward towards a direct place I think it’s fine.

On a side note, If I stop a girl.. i will say something like “Excuse me…” just to measure her initial level of receptiveness. If she is smiling and seems open, direct works well since she is in a good mood.

If she looks at me in a more formal manner, or like she does not really want to talk, I would go indirect.

Ive had many success from meet to sex with women that gave me the “yuck” look on the “Excuse me” but then the indirect way proved best for establishing some basic social comfort so I can finally hit on her.

I ask that everyone test this theory out. Throw a tester to see like “Excuse me..” see how receptive she looks in that moment. and then choose direct or indirect…

I would say 99% of men who open, already have a set opener in mind without even testing the receptive levels of the woman.

Instead, I would say something like “Excuse me….” and instead of sticking to the direct opener..I will gauge her initial vibe interms of the way she looks at me.. Is she open and happy at that time? is she more in a lost and formal tone?

This greatly affects the game afterwards… Even if she sticks around and listen, if you use the wrong path, it takes off more points than you would like.

For instance, if I throw a tester and notices that she does not look open … If i still go direct, she may stay a little just to be polite, but the vibe drops very fast… She will not want to talk much, It may force me to come across very try hard on a sinking ship. Even ,in the best case, if im lucky enough to get a flakey number, chances are very low that she will see me again.

The Justin Wayne Podcast: Episode 4 – “Game Tactics vs Perceived Value”

TACTICS VS VALUE

Welcome to our new podcast. I personally enjoyed this episode because me and the guest speaker, John Atlas, think alike. Here’s his background for those who don’t know. John Atlas is the “methodical scientist” – a Harvard and MIT grad, leader at the top management consultant firm in the world. He has had an extensive background in hypnotherapy field and has dealt with medical patients.

We stumbled upon each other a few years back while I was coaching day game. I saw him randomly approached a 9/10 and saw how he hooked her in. Just so you guys know, John Atlas is not considered good-looking at all. Yet, I could tell he had an uncanny social ability that enabled him to generate attraction despite him being a 4-5 at most. He was fascinated with my abilities at that time as well. I showed him what I do my Domino Effect. He opened up my eyes to other aspects of social dynamics that has helped me to get girls out of my league from the hardest form of approach.

Examples of VALUE to women:

Height, Looks, Money, Stereotype, Archetype, Relative Social Value, Fame, and more…

Examples of TACTICS used on women:

Good energy, social competence, entertainment, flirting, playfulness, charming abilities, timing and more…

HERE IS A BRIEF REVIEW OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

-  Who does “pick-up” work for?

- How to do you determine your attractive rating from 1 – 10?

- if you are borderline average (5/10) can game help you get hot women CONSISTENTLY?

- how the old dating community created this this belief of getting 9′s and 10′s into everyone’s mind. This messed up men’s reality where even if he was a ’4′ he would still criticize a ’7′ for not being a ’10′.

- The “no defect” guy.. by the 25 minute mark

- The three categories of value. 1) Universal Value 2) Context-Dependent Value 3) Specific Value

Fuck Valentine’s Day

Valentines Day is a time in the year for business to make money and all men must put their women on pedestals. This supports the whole feminist movement to spoil our modern day brainwashed women. I can’t really blame them. Truth is, men do not care about Valentines day, we only do it to make our lovers happy. 

I try to find some middle ground in my relationships, however, i never liked valentines day. Valentine’s Day, like any other holiday, expects you to act different on that one time per year. WOmen expect you to act like you are some romantic sap with flowers and a fiddle while crying out your unconditional love for them while they sit down and just watch.

Anyways, enough with my ranting for now. Here is a conversation with one woman I was dating on and off. Notice how I put her in her place and then she thanks me for it.SHe realized that Valentines Day was actually driving us further apart due to its “expectations” for men to be super romantic that day. SHe is Light Blue and I am  the purple bubble.

Lost in The Valentine's Day Syndrome....

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These guys are so true about Valentines Day

Familiarity Breeds Attraction

I will attempt to explain why familiarity breeds attraction and how we can utilize this knowledge to the fullest.

DEFINE:

This is a scientific concept that suggests that we are attracted to what we see around us the most. It is true that EVERYTHING we see and hear affects us either consciously or subconsciously at some level.

When we look at how our parents dressed in the past, it looks very weird and ‘not cool’ because we are not familiar with that style in our day to day modern lives.  For example, in the early nineties, people use to wear extremely baggy clothes. That time it was normal for the ‘cool’ people to dress this way. Same applies for slangs, games, way of socializing etc.

Same applies to humans of different races. This is the reason for natural prejudices between all races. Let’s take an American white girl who grew up with mostly white friends and dated mostly white men. She will be more easily attracted to what she already knows. Same, applies to other races.

Another example is how the media dictates what is “beautiful” or “handsome”.  During the renaissance period, a few centuries ago, people such as Leonardo da Vinci aided in setting the standard of beauty for that generation which were more “chubby” or “plump” women.

She is what was considered perfection

The same concept applies to modern day beauty. In the media, most of the celebrities are caucasian. Most of the models are very thin. Nothing is wrong with this, this is just the way it is. So what happens to everyone in the world? They see this in movies and music ALL the time and become FAMILIAR with a certain image/stereotype of them. Same applies with blacks in media. They show them mostly as street thugs hence a black guy just ‘looks’ more alpha than a white guy from the depiction of music and movies. I do not think there is any conspiracy behind this or anything. The fact is that the white population is far bigger than other minorities, it is only natural to have a higher percentage of white celebrities.

This concepts goes much deeper. Familiarity can also be related to other things like cars, websites, food, music etc.

HOW IS THIS RELATED TO PICK UP?

Firstly, I would like to make a further distinction to perfect this phrased ideology.

I do not think that ‘familiarity’ directly ‘breeds’ attraction.

Instead, Familiarity breeds COMFORT! And comfort allows ATTRACTION to enter. If a girl is not socially comfortable with you, she will not be receptive to your game.

Think about it. I am a black man of caribbean descent. Assuming that I grew up around black-caribbean women, it would be easier for me to feel more comfortable around a NEW black girl as opposed to if ( everything else equal ) I met a NEW white girl who I have less in common with. I will feel more comfortable with what I am familiar with. This will make the process easier for me to deal with.

Now, this is NOT ONLY racial. This is within subcultures and stereotypes.

Let’s say there is a white college jock and he approaches a white Goth girl. He would have a harder time getting her as a jock than if he was a goth kid himself ( ceteris paribus/ everything else equal.) Why? She is not familiar with hanging around and connecting with the jock type. Hense, if he was a goth white kid, her familiarity with his stereotype will help to breed FAMILIARITY which will ultimately make her feel more COMFORTABLE and OPEN to him. After this is established, it will make it much easier for him to generate ATTRACTION because she is more open to his kind/stereotype. It’s very difficult to attract a girl without comfort, especially when a woman is sober.

This is also the reason why minorities will experience difficulties trying to pick up girls outside of their race. I can lie to the world and say it does not matter what race you are… but that would be bullshit. Now, once the girl is very into the minority, then he can use that romantic connection to get her and keep her. However, interms of the “pick-up” aspect, they will have a harder time establishing BASIC SOCIAL COMFORT. Without it, there is no attraction.

This is the reason why I never really liked online game as a means to pick up hotter women of other races. I can verify that all the girls in my ‘LAY REPORTs SECTION’ would not even respond to me if I messaged them online as a stranger. They would instantly ignore me and in rare cases message me back just because they were bored. However, I would not be able to get a date from them because they would have stereotyped me and there would be NO familiarity.

Here is a GREAT post this matter that even OKCUPID spoke about interms of the response rates that different races of men were receiving. Here is a post that talks about this issue HERE.

HOW CAN WE UTILIZE THIS IN PICK-UP?

We've all been there

That’s what I like about gaming face-to-face, I can use language and conversational topics to relate to them more and make them feel COMFORTABLE with me so they can see past the stereotype they may have of me. This will allow me to create attraction and progressively escalate to the bedroom and beyond.

 My first goal, regardless of opening direct or indirect, is to establish some Basic Social Comfort with the girl to make her more familiar with me. This is easier said than done. After coaching for three years, most guys have no idea of whether they have enough comfort or not. It’s not their fault. Women will talk to you and be polite and not necessarily feel connected to you. It’s not easy to tell.

If you notice some of my ‘infield videos’. I usually have a social vibe in the beginning. Some guys who are really insecure with their manhood would say “he seems like he is being too friendly, or he is not being agressive enough, or he seems to shakey”. Here is the truth. The way I engage some of the girls outside my race are in a certain way to what they are familiar with. If I actually spoke to them like my GANGSTER cousins in Brooklyn New York. They will NOT look at me as alpha, they will simply be creeped out. THEY are NOT FAMILIAR with that kind of behavior. I know this because I used to be very agressive and loved to fight in my younger days. I used to be in the wrong company when I was in my teens and I temporarily dropped out of school due to gang wars. It was serious.  I hung out with real guys in the streets and they get women from their reputation, not because they are agressive in general.

OLD ME:


Many guys asked me “How do you do so well with other races so seamlessly?”

Simple. I spent my teens in the Caribbean. My vibe was very RAW and I had a thick Caribbean accent that sounded too rough. When I came back to America, I noticed that I just couldn’t connect with most people on a deeper level easily. Not even with African-American girls. The only girls I connected with were Caribbean. This was because that was all I was familiar with. One thing I did to help me understand different races/subcultures was to listen to their music, television shows etc. I even watched shows like Gossip Girl, 90210, etc to slowly understand the mind of the modern spoiled and overly feminized American women. This was all done as an experiment just to see if it would help. I also followed celebrity news just to learn about it. I noticed when I re-applied this in pick up, it changed the dynamics. I even changed the way I spoke to them;using a funny and quirky vibe since thats what they are more familiar with in general. It made a difference interms of getting them connected. I did other thing also.

You would probably notice that sometimes I would have this young kid vibe while engaging younger girls… I do it because that is what they are familiar with. That familiarity breeds comfort, which later breeds attraction.

Even in mini subcultures, there is a totally different set of languages used with an 18 year old  vs a 28 year old. There are new things that are cool. There are newer definitions of what  ’cool’ is. This is where the pick up is an ART. I have successfully developed a UNIVERSAL style that helps me to lay a higher variation of girls. (Keep in mind, I do have to adjust minor things)

That’s why OLDER MEN must be in with the times of fashion, news, trends etc. The social subtleties keep evolving slowly and it’s good to keep up-to-date. I even listen to new hippie music now just to get a feel for whats out there. In short, stay relevant.

DISCLAIMER:

I am very well aware that the argument of  ”why should one change himself while engaging the woman”…

ALL OF THESE POINTS ARE WHAT OCCURS MOST FREQUENTLY. We do not care about the 1% chance. That is not what efficiency is all about. 

I am coming from an extremely scientific aka trial-and-error aka statistical approach to solving and refining pick up. I am not saying that you SHOULD change yourself. I am saying this is what can be done to INCREASE your ODDS. If you want to just do what you want, fine.

Also, I am NOT saying that every man should act quirky. People will have to find their own balance. I had to use quirky due to my stereotype and original vibe that I conveyed. Some guys need to be more calm, while other guys look too playerish, while other guys… you get the point. That’s why I am a dating coach, I assist men with developing their style.

Furthermore,

The idea of CHANGING YOURSELF is rather complex. Do you act the exact same way to your mother as you would to your girlfriend? DO you act the same way to your boss as you would to your child?

NO. If you do, you probably have aspergers.

However, I do agree that you do not want to go against your core. But that’s a different topic for a different night :)

The Justin Wayne Podcast: Episode 3 – “No-to-Yes Girl Breakdown”

Hey Guys, this post is long overdue. This was already on the Lay Report page. However, I need to post every single PodCast on this blog so they can all be in the Podcast menu for this blog.

Look out for the next PodCast where I will go in depth about the community from my view and what I feel is the best way to get women. 

and the lay report with the video is the same one thats already been posted but I’ll put it here for new readers. 

And the full lay report is here :  

THE VIMEO VERSION IS HERE

Infield Video Analysis of girl with Boyfriend (Quick Kiss on Lips)

I’ve decided to begin infield video recording for the new product I am working on that will come with the Domino Effect book. In the beginning of this video, the girl will seem generally disinterested and mentions her boyfriend. This is the type of things you will read in my lay reports. This is a simple break down. My style of pick ups will VARY greatly but yields the same results in the end. So this is NOT the only thing that my teaching is about. You will notice the difference between this pick up and the older video I had which is HERE. Both of the interactions ended in the same result even though they were different styles. Here is a video of my currently RUSTY game. 

The ‘Justin Wayne’ Podcast: Episode 2- “Truth on Motivation”

One of the most talked about things in the ‘pick-up’ world is the issue of motivation. Many people complain about not sustaining motivation to handle the ups and downs in learning how to stranger approach. This was just an interview Podcast with me talking about what motivates me. Any questions feel free to leave them in the comment section below. ALSO, WHAT MOTIVATES YOU?

ALTERNATIVE VIDEO HERE

Motivation